mrsherbie
2009-02-01T19:41:16Z
JD wrote:


The whole idea of having to SVA buggies is frankly laughable also. Its been perfectly alright since the sixties and now its suddenly not. Tell me a good reason why?? Nanny state. Burocracy gone mad.:evil:



I disagree. 'cars' built from boxes of bits in someones garage, usually an amateur with little skill should be inspected for all round safety before being allowed on our roads.
And here is just 1 very good reason why :cry:

man kills his 4 children in modified land rover 

A Chesil kit is only around 50% a beetle yet that is what is on most of their docs, and they are legally allowed to do that which I think is far too generous of the DVLA, I would happily accept the job to slap Q plates on all those tupperware lunchboxes if it were up to me! :lol: I think the DVLA are correct with the way they want each vehicle identified correctly to EXACTLY what IT IS.

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Long live Rattletrap:d
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Back to Rattletrap, I agree with sunroof53 , its interest lies in the story far more than the metal :beer:

And anyway, there is no debate, as clearly from this pic ^ Rattletrap is in fact a '1950 zwitter post 55 oval split' :? :lol:

But what does it matter! It has survived one way or another, and long may it live on! I cant wait to see it out and about this year!! :d :beer: :d


"it'll wreck the patina you haven't worked so hard to create" - 50Karmann
Sunroof53
2009-02-01T21:22:07Z
Here is the text with Tonys storys about the car.

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54 Gertie
2009-02-01T21:37:03Z
My eyes hurt! :shock:

That makes a very interesting read!:wink:
William
stu
2009-02-01T21:52:28Z
im hoping to veiw it 2moz, if its not sold, but i think the museum its kept in is only open weekends! :roll:
Sunroof53
2009-02-01T21:57:49Z
54 Gertie wrote:

My eyes hurt! :shock:

That makes a very interesting read!:wink:




:lol: Sorry forgot to add 'please zoom to view'
JD
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2009-02-01T22:10:58Z
mrsherbie wrote:



I disagree. 'cars' built from boxes of bits in someones garage, usually an amateur with little skill should be inspected for all round safety before being allowed on our roads.
And here is just 1 very good reason why Crying or Very Sad



Very big difference between changing the body of your Beetle for a glass fibre shell on a sometimes shortenend pan than a car built from boxes of bits.

I have no confidence in the SVA anyway, since it seems far more concerned with making sure the car has fog and reversing lights and that theres nothing pointy on it than it does with real safety issues of design and construction. Lots of totally standard old cars couldn´t pass it if they were subjected to it, mainly due to dangerous pointy bits like non impact bumpers. Perhaps they should all be banned. Perhaps they will be.

When I read things like this... "Lincoln Crown Court heard Gresham had created a "Frankenstein" car that was kept on the road only by "cannibalising" parts from others."... I get worried. This is what we all do. The only difference is that this guy was clearly clueless.

Sorry to go off on an off topic rant!
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mrsherbie
2009-02-02T10:15:42Z
54 Gertie wrote:

My eyes hurt! :shock:



MINE TOO!! I cant read that! it must be sunroof53's funny idea of punishment! :lol:

JD wrote:


When I read things like this... "Lincoln Crown Court heard Gresham had created a "Frankenstein" car that was kept on the road only by "cannibalising" parts from others."... I get worried. This is what we all do. The only difference is that this guy was clearly clueless.
Sorry to go off on an off topic rant!



I also find this very chilling, far more detail on the cars faults and the guy and his business (modifying Landrovers!) in this film. Landrover or VW, there are people EXACTLY like this working in the vw scene too..

news report 

'driving too fast' court report 
"it'll wreck the patina you haven't worked so hard to create" - 50Karmann
Rich Oakley
2009-02-03T13:44:46Z
I have been told that the car is now sold.

Did somebody on here buy it?
47 Beetle, 56 UK Karmann Cabriolet, 56 UK Beetle, 57 UK Type 2, 59 UK Beetle, 66 UK Fastback.
mrsherbie
2009-02-03T14:31:46Z
I hope so!! :d
"it'll wreck the patina you haven't worked so hard to create" - 50Karmann
stu
2009-02-03T17:31:32Z
i received a call today to say it was sold to the guy who had first refusal, it was someone that knew tony for years, dunno who that is, i thought it was you rich :lol:
54 Gertie
2009-02-03T18:03:31Z
Just realised where I recognised Rattletrap from......This VW book that I have has for ages!:wink:

There is a photo of it back on on the rear cover, but sadly nothing more inside! :cry:

Does anyone have a picture of this illusive prototype dashboard? Becasue in the few pictures I have seen of it the dash has allways just looked oval to me!:wink:

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Rich Oakley
2009-02-03T18:38:11Z
stu wrote:

i received a call today to say it was sold to the guy who had first refusal, it was someone that knew tony for years, dunno who that is, i thought it was you rich :lol:



Not me, I didn't know the guy. I hope we get to see it at a few shows this year.
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stu
2009-02-03T20:18:23Z
54 Gertie wrote:

Just realised where I recognised Rattletrap from......This VW book that I have has for ages!:wink:

There is a photo of it back on on the rear cover, but sadly nothing more inside! :cry:

Does anyone have a picture of this illusive prototype dashboard? Becasue in the few pictures I have seen of it the dash has allways just looked oval to me!:wink:

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the cars a zwitter, it has an early oval dashboard with the aluminum starter button & no trim round the ashtray & a split rear window :d
54 Gertie
2009-02-03T20:22:28Z
stu wrote:



the cars a zwitter, it has an early oval dashboard with the aluminum starter button & no trim round the ashtray & a split rear window :d




Yes but for example in that article they state that the car is something of a "prototype", not just a Zwitter! I am sure that it probably is just a zwitter but I was wondering if anyone had any other ideas?:wink: :?
William
stu
2009-02-03T20:23:47Z
Rich Oakley wrote:



Not me, I didn't know the guy. I hope we get to see it at a few shows this year.



anyone on here know who the new owner is then?, be good to see it at a few shows
stu
2009-02-03T20:26:42Z
54 Gertie wrote:




Yes but for example in that article they state that the car is something of a "prototype", not just a Zwitter! I am sure that it probably is just a zwitter but I was wondering if anyone had any other ideas?:wink: :?



maybe it was just a zwitter but made 2 years earlier than the other zwitters, even though the tailights are late 55 :lol:
54 Gertie
2009-02-03T20:28:36Z
stu wrote:



maybe it was just a zwitter but made 2 years earlier than the other zwitters, even though the tailights are late 55 :lol:



True, true!

But I douubt it to be honest!:wink: :lol:



Also does anyone know the exact year of this car?

Some books say 51, some places say 50 and other even say 52, making it a zwitter!:( :d :wink: :?
William
stu
2009-02-03T20:37:32Z
54 Gertie wrote:



True, true!

But I douubt it to be honest!:wink: :lol:



Also does anyone know the exact year of this car?

Some books say 51, some places say 50 and other even say 52, making it a zwitter!:( :d :wink: :?



i think its late 52 or early 53
GKL 7
2009-02-03T22:23:17Z
Only one thing that puzzles me thru' all this what possible reason would Tony have had to falsify the year of his cars production.
VW Stan
2009-02-03T23:33:48Z
In the August 73 Safer Motoring there's their first 'ancient beetles register' list and Tony states that it's a 1951 and the chassis number is 1-0433703
(Which makes it early 53!)
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