Cog
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2009-10-28T22:22:09Z
Hi guys, does anyone have any recommendations for reading and learning about vintage VW speed ?

Ive found a few snippets here and there but most of my books are quite old and I am wondering if anyone has put a lot of the knowledge together anywhere in print.

Many thanks guys


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Sunroof53
2009-10-29T00:20:29Z
http://www.thesamba.com/...e2054de10ebf41f341db9905 

If you have the time there is plenty to read on that link.Probably more than any book could cover.
Cog
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2009-10-29T06:58:36Z
Cheers sunroof53 excellent 🙂
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2009-10-29T08:52:14Z
What old books do you have Cog?
"John, you need to get a grip and STOP MOANING AT EVERYTHING. ThumbDown "
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Cog
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2009-10-29T09:03:17Z
most commercially available vw books from the late 80s. So anything newer that has more or new information I am lacking. However this TheSamba forum is great for my needs now.
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lifeintheslowlane
2009-10-29T10:35:26Z
Cog wrote:

most commercially available vw books from the late 80s. So anything newer that has more or new information I am lacking. However this TheSamba forum is great for my needs now.



For "Vintage Speed" it's a good idea to look for older books than those of the late '80s. By it's very definition "Vintage Speed" is all about how they did it when these cars were new.

There are two excellent vintage books from the late '50s early '60s if you are really serious about "Vintage Speed". They are "Making The Volkswagen Go" by Henry Elfrink and "Souping the Volkswagen" by Dick Morgan. Both are out of print but can be found in VW site's Classifieds for a price but fortunately "Souping the Volkswagen" by Dick Morgan can be found free of charge here: http://www.oldspeed.ch/pages/preparation.html 
John.
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2009-10-29T12:00:32Z
I have a copy of "Jezt mach Ich Ihm Schneller" (Now I´ll make it faster) from the late 1960s, but it´s all in German. Very good book though.
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Cog
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2009-10-29T13:17:39Z
Thanks for these ideas guys i will look into them. John you have misquoted me, read the post from the start. I am saying my existing literature does not hit the mark and is old i.e. From the 80's that was commercially available at the time and therefore is not covering what i needed. Books i bought then covered basic model history, 70's style customs and cal lookers. Anyhing vintage was not apparent at the time to me. Therefore even though 'old' since we are in 2009, certainly not period which either would be earleir books or newer books than mine that covered vintage speed.
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lifeintheslowlane
2009-10-29T14:22:56Z
Well thanks for putting me right on that "cog"...I'm sure it's much clearer for all of us now.:d
John.
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2009-10-29T15:05:43Z
your welcome. Thanks for the book suggestions I will keep a look out.
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lifeintheslowlane
2009-10-29T18:22:06Z
If you are new to "Vintage Speed" you might not be aware that this designation did not exist 10 years ago. It's a category that has steadily grown in popularity as the Internet got under way.

The www made searching for information and obsolete hardware very much easier but 10 years ago "Vintage Speed" consisted mainly of Judson Superchargers, Okrasa Kits for 30 and 34hp engines and performance equipment marketed by the original EMPI company in California.

What this means is you are not going to find books written in the last 20 years on the subject, it just too small a market in the larger "VW World". Sure there are books on performance VW engine building but all are aimed at the later twin port Type 1, Type 3 and Type 4 engines.

Virtually everything pertaining to the genre will be found on the Internet Forums and those two books I listed earlier which are collectively considered to be The Bible of Vintage Speed tuning.

Happy hunting...that's half the fun. :d
John.
Cog
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2009-10-30T10:00:10Z
THanks John, yes I walked away from the VW scene (to my loss) in the early 90's hence why my book collection is so 'period' . TheSamba forum looks great and I have also enjoyed looking at all the small blogs some guys are contributing to for their own builds. Its an amazing area. I used to have a Shorrock but it just sat around and was given to a guy for the complete contents of his pockets (£80) around 1992. I hope to learn a lot more and find something nice as a donar. I recently got hold of a '65 RHD Ghia but it's original (although a bit tatty) so I am not sure I want to do too much to it, at least for now anyway.

Anyway, TheSamba, and this forum is great so I will be doing more reading than ranting I hope in the future.

All the best.

Guy
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lifeintheslowlane
2009-10-30T11:07:54Z
Cog wrote:

THanks John, yes I walked away from the VW scene (to my loss) in the early 90's hence why my book collection is so 'period' . TheSamba forum looks great and I have also enjoyed looking at all the small blogs some guys are contributing to for their own builds. Its an amazing area. I used to have a Shorrock but it just sat around and was given to a guy for the complete contents of his pockets (£80) around 1992. I hope to learn a lot more and find something nice as a donar. I recently got hold of a '65 RHD Ghia but it's original (although a bit tatty) so I am not sure I want to do too much to it, at least for now anyway.

Anyway, TheSamba, and this forum is great so I will be doing more reading than ranting I hope in the future.

All the best.

Guy



Ahhh, as a new "Vintage Speed" fan and a Karmann Ghia owner you might like to visit the Samba's Karmann Ghia forum too: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewforum.php?f=7  Quite a few UK owners on that forum and you might find this picture familiar...my supercharger to be fitted to my '58 Ghia early next month.:d

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I won't spoil your day by telling you how much you would have to pay for a full Shorrock Kit today.:?
John.
Cog
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2009-10-30T13:42:04Z
I can guess John 😞 when I came back to the VW scene in the early 00's I was amaized at how much T2s had gone up in value for example. I bought a '56 Oval at that time but had to sell a year later when I downsized but had the original split gearbox and original engine case. I could not take it with me when I moved to downsize so i advertised it. Because no one wanted it I was forced to skip them. I feel that pain every day !!!!
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Cog
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2009-10-30T13:43:01Z
nice piece of kit John, I take it you dont use that toothbrush in the bathroom anymore 🙂

I look forward to seeing your Ghia with this in.

Guy
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reminou75
2009-10-30T13:46:59Z
Hi John,

the perfect set up for Le Mans Classic... 😎

Remi
lifeintheslowlane
2009-10-30T14:00:29Z
reminou75 wrote:

Hi John,

the perfect set up for Le Mans Classic... 😎

Remi



Yes Remi, it will be there.:d
John.
lifeintheslowlane
2009-10-30T14:10:19Z
Cog wrote:

nice piece of kit John, I take it you dont use that toothbrush in the bathroom anymore :-)

Guy



My wife caught me with the electric one but sent me back to get my old one.:(
John.
Cog
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2009-10-30T15:16:33Z
That pic is bring back memories of 20 yrs ago, is it a Shorrock? I see Judsons all the time in magazines and I dont think its a Judson, in my unqualified view.

TheSamba's KG forum looks awesome, I will be spending hours there too 🙂 Thanks once again John.

KG at Le Mans !! when does that happen? awesome!! how do you get involved in that? very inspiring...
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vintagebug
2009-10-30T17:16:40Z

Have a look here, Guy:-

http://forums.pre67vw.co...aspx?g=posts&t=17084 

Contact Reminou 75 if you're interested. :wink:

Cheers,

Dave
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