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#181 Posted : 17 March 2011 22:28:12(UTC)
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48REME wrote:
Well there we have it then. The official terms for Standards (111, etc...) seemed to have ended for models introduced in late 1966.
So maybe 1965-66 is indeed the cut-off date year and Brian's model is one of the last models which can officially be called a Standard. It would make sense since Brian's type 115 still has older domed hubcaps and not the flat ones introduced for the new 1200A models of late 1966 as shown on that colour chart, yet again a progressive move from the earlier features sported by the now defunct Standard model.Smile


Brian's car has the new ball joint ft end with roller bearings just like all 66's have. Those hub caps are not original to the car (correct Brian ?) Brian's 115 is a 40hp(SAE) with seat tracks welded to the pan and no bumps in the pan for securing mats-all new for the 66 model year for 111-112-115-116 models. This is a big major shift from the previous years model 1200A. Heck, Brian's car has new for the first time a electric choke.TheSamba.com

August 1965 (1966 model year) 1200A Bug Owner's Manual
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#182 Posted : 17 March 2011 22:51:25(UTC)
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http://www.thesamba.com/...8_65bug_1200a/cover.jpg

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#183 Posted : 17 March 2011 23:08:59(UTC)
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Interesting... Wink
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#184 Posted : 17 March 2011 23:23:51(UTC)
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Mike Peckham wrote:
Interesting... Wink



You've got to laugh at that one MikeROFL
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#185 Posted : 18 March 2011 22:54:16(UTC)
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OK, I found what I was looking for.

I concede my car is not a standard. Blushing

Standards ended with chassis number 6 502 399 in July 1964

The standard sedan, sedan A (what is that?) ended 115 979 202 in July 1965

Progressive Refinements - VW Source page 152 - In writing!!

I feel much better now Smile

http://oacdp.org/wog69/153.png

Of course now we can get into a discussion of the difference between Type and Model Crying


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#186 Posted : 19 March 2011 06:28:41(UTC)
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Hey guys, anyone notice the 1300A in Brian's data above? Base 1300! I saw one of those in Switzerland in 1979, (a 67) just below Burgenstock on the dock on lake Lucerne as a post office runabout. I've seen those in Germany too. For 1967 in Germany you could buy a 1200A, a 1300A, a 1300 Deluxe 6Volt or a 1500 12Volt, new headlamp, /disc brakes. In Mexico for 67 you could by a deluxe 1200 that had the 58-64 body. Wonder what was happening in Brazil in 67?? All these combinations!

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#187 Posted : 19 March 2011 13:51:52(UTC)
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losthillsguy wrote:

...I concede my car is not a standard. Blushing

Ah ha Raspberry

Its been hard work for me for years here with this subject. I'll even settle for mid '64 as opposed to end '63.

But the point is as I've always believed, that no all-round big window Beetles are Standard models. And they don't look the part either.

Right, now that's out of the way back on with my other battle on these forums - Rattletrap's year of manufacture...RollEyes

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#188 Posted : 06 April 2011 11:26:55(UTC)
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A few detail shots of a rare 67 1200 base model 111.

Painted quarterlight frames.


Painted indicators.


Painted horn grille on one side only.



It also had no Z-bar on the back suspension.
I tried to get a shot inside, but no joy. It had no fuel gauge and a fuel tap, no chrome inside and no glovebox lid.

The blue 6 volt 1975 car was also at the show.

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#189 Posted : 09 April 2011 22:21:50(UTC)
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Managed to get a full shot of the 67 Model 111 today. I notice there´s no bonnet chrome either.

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#190 Posted : 09 April 2011 23:45:33(UTC)
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Lovely. It looks more or less the same as the RHD '67 base model I had a few years ago, apart from it having a glovebox lid, which was definitely there from new.
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#191 Posted : 10 April 2011 10:05:15(UTC)
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Lovely. It looks more or less the same as the RHD '67 base model I had a few years ago, apart from it having a glovebox lid, which was definitely there from new.


It´s nice for sure. It belongs to an old couple.

Did your car have a fuel gauge or a reserve tap?
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#192 Posted : 10 April 2011 19:14:15(UTC)
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A previous owner had hacked an early '60s gauge into it, but it definitely had a tap originally. No bonnet or dash trim, no z-bar, painted indicator tops and 1/4 lights, one horn grille, no bumper over-riders, plain black horn push, an on/off interior light with no A-post switches, no chrome trim in the window rubbers, small headliner etc.
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#193 Posted : 10 April 2011 21:57:53(UTC)
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Sounds like it was a real rarity. Odd about the glovebox lid.
RHD?

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#194 Posted : 11 April 2011 02:46:28(UTC)
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Yup. I've seen a few of them over the years but not that many. Mine was Fontana Grey and I'm sure the lid was original - no chrome trim on it either.
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Here's another claim of a big-window Standard…RollEyes
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws...623508195#ht_500wt_1156

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Here's another claim of a big-window Standard…RollEyes
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws...623508195#ht_500wt_1156

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A Model 111.
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#197 Posted : 16 April 2011 13:37:06(UTC)
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The 58 I was looking to get had black painted bumpers and black hub caps with no trim strips. May have been a basic bug but the steering wheel was the white with 2 spokes.Confused
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#198 Posted : 12 September 2016 12:38:33(UTC)
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The 58 I was looking to get had black painted bumpers and black hub caps with no trim strips. May have been a basic bug but the steering wheel was the white with 2 spokes.Confused


There was an interesting 1949 Deluxe split window at the Lavenham vintage VW show this year. It appeared to be very original and untouched, yet it had a three spoke steering wheel, the same as the Standard model, but it was white, not black.
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