barkafer
2008-11-18T01:38:45Z
Hi Folks,

This is my first post so I'll intoduce myself. My name is Chris and I've loved VW's all my life. Any shape or size!
I am currently the owner of a '98 Passat (for work), a '99 Sharan (family) and more interestingly a 1200 '67 T1 which I have been told is a rear Spa Kafer. She is in my garage at present waiting for me to start work on her.
For 41 years she's in pretty good nick. However she does need a new floor a couple of doors and side trays and a new rear valance.
The valance is proving to be an awkward part to source:? so I figured the best place to come would be this site.
Any advice will be much appreciated.:d

Here's a few photo's of my baby! Warts and all!
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stickman
2008-11-18T13:18:15Z
Hello and welcome :lol:

Sorry i wouldn't know about the valance, but i expect Karmann Konnection would be able to help. Jules often posts on here, and i have got various parts from them.

I don't think you are far from me, i'm in Spalding.

What colour is your 67?
pre67vw
2008-11-18T13:44:05Z
Welcome to the forum!!

'67 is a one year only rear valance, not sure if yours is different than other '67s? Kind of looks like a hole for a starter handle, although the bracket covers it.

However, it doesn't look too bad, rather than trying to source a replacement - just get someone who knows what they are doing to repair the rusted area.
Rob Amos
Happiness is a stock VW
54 Gertie
2008-11-18T16:27:32Z
Looks really cool!

Cant help with any bits but just wondering, is it just me or does it have a reserve tap in the normal place on the bulkhead like 50s bugs?
William
six-o-one
2008-11-18T17:09:57Z
Yep, they don't have fuel gauges!
They are how the 'standard' base model continued through the 60s.
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barkafer
2008-11-19T11:43:13Z
stickman wrote:

Hello and welcome :lol:

Sorry i wouldn't know about the valance, but i expect Karmann Konnection would be able to help. Jules often posts on here, and i have got various parts from them.

I don't think you are far from me, i'm in Spalding.

What colour is your 67?

Thanks for the tip. I think it's VW blue, but I'm not sure. Are you on allduzklub?

barkafer
2008-11-19T11:53:30Z
54 Gertie wrote:

Looks really cool!

Cant help with any bits but just wondering, is it just me or does it have a reserve tap in the normal place on the bulkhead like 50s bugs?

Yes. No fuel guage and the tap is in the usual place.

zelensis61
2008-11-19T15:36:24Z
Hello,
Actualy it is not called a "spa" but "Spahr".
And that is German for : savings.
It was to create a ( standard ) beetle for less money at a time the standard was not made anymore.
Most of the parts came from 6volt generations and most of them the old series.
A friend had one previous, a 65 and it was still with an oval drivetrain, splitcase gearbox ...All original even the steering wheel was an Oval one.
Greetings.

ZELENSIS, coachbuilt body from the 50's on a vw platform made in Belgium. Peter the heb detective
Richard
2008-11-20T12:41:29Z
This is how I did mine. Was the only option. I have seen a few NOS valances at shows last year though.
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I sneakily managed to get hold of one which was rotten from the seal down, it was rotten with rust, and had been covered in fibre glass. I cut the seal retaining strip off, and cut around that section. I then got the new repro valance, stripped it of all its guts, and grafted them together, checking regularly that it was going in the right place. The inner skin was also rotten, and is a different shape on the repro, so also cut n welded them together.

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I've got no decent pics of the valance once it was painted, these are the only ones I've got...

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barkafer
2008-11-20T23:27:17Z
Thanks pal. Great pics. Looks like my V has rusted in the same places. It has filler everywhere and the inner is badly rusted too. Wher did you get the repro panel from?

Thanks to all you other guys for the comments too. Much appreciated:d I need all the help I can get to restore my baby!
barkafer
2008-11-26T00:30:30Z
Removed the engine saturday and found some evidence of minor collision damage.:cry:
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Damage inside the rear n/s wing.
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And the rusted valance.
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KK and Volkshaven are trying to source the valance for me. I have to get a welder first though:roll:
stickman
2008-11-26T13:25:26Z
That should keep you out of mischief for a while!



It will be worth it in the end as your Beetle is quite a rare one I guess. I never knew you could buy a beetle so late on without a fuel guage! :shock:
Dubster
2008-11-30T18:39:52Z
Hello Chris,

That will be a lovely rare car when you've finished, it may be worth trying these guys for a rear valance, I know that they did have stock of NOS ones last year.

https://shop.volkswarenh...cat/c725_Tail-panel.html 

They are nearly 300 euros though, the part number is 801 111 303 .

I love VW Blue '67s, I have a 1500 one 🙂 Are you planning on keeping it stock? It does look like it's running an alternator, so it must have been converted to 12 volts in the past.

Please keep us all informed of your progress.

cheers

Richard
December 1966 UK 1500 Beetle
barkafer
2008-12-01T00:55:56Z
Thanks for that Richard. Top tip! I checked the site and they are shown as 261.00 euros plus p&p. Did you have to replace the valance on your 1500?
Oh, and yes she will be kept stock as can be. She has been converted to 12v by a previous owner though.
barkafer
2009-04-14T00:01:53Z
Overdue update....!
After months of searching I found a donor rear end on VZI:d Happy days. The welding will be carried out by a professional. I know my limitations! The C pillars are in pretty bad shape, having been filled.
Here's a few pics.
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Donor pillars are in much better shape.
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And the rear end.
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The rotten engine bay vent.
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And the donor.
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The rest of the donor was kippered I can assure you!:cry: