AW
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  • pre67vw Junkie Topic Starter
2012-01-06T17:37:08Z
Heb for sale on the Samber :d


Andy w
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GKL 7
2012-01-06T17:39:45Z
AW wrote:

Heb for sale on the Samber :d


Andy w





FAKE.
AW
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  • pre67vw Junkie Topic Starter
2012-01-06T17:43:27Z
Makes intresting reading. Yes fake but can any one throw any more light on the Karman built Hebs ???????????



Andy w
pre67vw
2012-01-06T18:22:10Z
AW wrote:

Makes intresting reading. Yes fake but can any one throw any more light on the Karman built Hebs ???????????



Andy w



The story is that after Hebmuller went bust, the remaining parts were shipped to Karmann - who used the parts to finish about 14 other cars. I think there was talk of Karmann continuing production of the type 14A, but for whatever reason that didn't happen.
Rob Amos
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zelensis61
2012-01-06T19:15:37Z
THe blue metalic one is indeed a complete repop but made with the best parts availeble from Dr Hortig. :thumbup:
Here you find more info.

https://hebsite.com/?page_id=337 
And another one :omg:
https://hebsite.com/?page_id=232 

The person to contact is Roger Dean.

Rob is correct about the Karmann built hebs. Rumour is that there are 12 made, then there was info on 14. I think it might be a bit more, not much but more.
I have at least 15 Vin numbers of Karmann made hebs and on Claus his site there is a new entry that fits the list but is not on it, so that could be nr 16.
https://www.karmann1952.de/html/uber_mich.html 

However, I know at least one car that is made in the same time area and wears a MAHAG aufbau plate and no VW tag. Paperwork says it is a MAHAG?

Greetings.
ZELENSIS, coachbuilt body from the 50's on a vw platform made in Belgium. Peter the heb detective
pre67vw
2012-05-25T08:59:27Z
Looks like a new ad for this car is up on the Samba, not sure how they can claim this:

Quote:

The steel pressings were crafted by the same factory in Germany as the original 60 years ago.



and

Quote:

The best part of this deal is the price it is half the price you will pay just to be able to say "I own an all original Hebmuller"



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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1310292 
Rob Amos
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JD
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  • pre67vw Junkie
2012-05-25T10:54:23Z
I think it´s a lovely 14A. 120K dollars is a lot of money though.
I wouldn´t call it a fake either, unless there´s some intent to decieve. Until someone tries to pass it off as genuine original, it´s a replica.:smile:
"John, you need to get a grip and STOP MOANING AT EVERYTHING. ThumbDown "
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pre67vw
2012-05-25T11:15:18Z
It is a lovely car, no doubt about it.

But why not market it as the best replica available, made from the best replica parts available? I think trying to say its an all original Hebmuller is an attempt to decieve, so yep - it's a FAKE.
Rob Amos
Happiness is a stock VW
heb623
2012-05-25T11:37:13Z
pre67vw wrote:

It is a lovely car, no doubt about it.



Fullu agreed, but replica is also fake! And fake stays fake!

:twisted: ET

I ’ll never regret the things I did wrong!
I only regret the good things I did for the wrong people!
JD
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  • pre67vw Junkie
2012-05-25T11:47:06Z
pre67vw wrote:

It is a lovely car, no doubt about it.

But why not market it as the best replica available, made from the best replica parts available? I think trying to say its an all original Hebmuller is an attempt to decieve, so yep - it's a FAKE.



It´s a bit ambiguously worded to be sure.
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usariemen
2012-05-25T11:51:50Z
pre67vw wrote:

I think trying to say its an all original Hebmuller is an attempt to deceive, so yep - it's a FAKE.




They said you have to pay half the price (for their car), wich you would have to pay (for an other car) to be able to say "I have an original Hebmüller".

So they do not say theirs is an original. They say the one twice that expensive is the original.
But still they merchandise it close to something original. It was not made by or at Hebmüller. So it is no Hebmüller. It is made as what was a VW type 14. But it was made today and with new produced panels. So it stays a replica and nothing else.
A beautiful car and well made but nothing original or historic.

"The steel pressings were crafted by the same factory in Germany as the original 60 years ago."
That´s nonsense of course.
Master of my domaine.
pre67vw
2013-06-19T11:32:56Z
Looks like it's going to auction:

https://www.russoandsteele.com 
Rob Amos
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