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JULIANROBINSON
11 years ago
I'm just building up a 1956 oval beam and it needs new outer bush/bearings...

The fiber type.. I've been all over trying to get them...

Where can I get them? Some seem to think the later metal bearings will fit.. others say the K&L beams changed in 1960 so the late bearings wont fit the early beams...

Any thoughts or knowledge?

THANK YOU

:smile:
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nicolass
11 years ago
Hi Julian
Only up to 1965 type fits in the early front beam the later bearings is a differend sice.


JULIANROBINSON
11 years ago

Hi Julian
Only up to 1965 type fits in the early front beam the later bearings is a differend sice.


nicolass wrote:



Yeah, I know that King and link are different to Ball Joint. But I'm being told that King and link pin beams changed in 1960... some say they are ok, and the outer bushes fit them all (king and link) and some same the K&L beams changed.. or was it just the outer bushes/bearings that changed?
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six-o-one
11 years ago
Wolfsburg west list them as being the same through to '65.

1960 Beetle, starting at chassis # 2921552 were the first to have a roller bearing (46mm dia) which fits upper torsion arm for 1966-1977 ball joint beams.

https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111401315 
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JULIANROBINSON
11 years ago

Wolfsburg west list them as being the same through to '65.

1960 Beetle, starting at chassis # 2921552 were the first to have a roller bearing (46mm dia) which fits upper torsion arm for 1966-1977 ball joint beams.

https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111401315 

six-o-one wrote:



Exactly.. so they should be the same and I should be able to fit roller bearings.. but nearly everyone else (except heritage who say the "late" bearings will fit early cars) say i cant..

https://www.vwheritage.com/vw_spares_Needle-bearing-upper-66-Upper-Lower-65-111401301_act_shop.product_pID_87354_lang_EN_country_GB.htm?crumbStartPage=1 

https://www.customandcommercial.com/vw-beetle/steering--and--suspension/front_axle_and_suspension_parts/front_axle_needle_bearing_46mm_4_required_60-65_also_2_required_upper_66-77_3225/ 

.. but will they fit a 56 beam?

I've had a few places like machine 7 etc say I cant and KK say they have nothing to do the job..
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Jules
11 years ago

The fiber type.. I've been all over trying to get them...

JULIANROBINSON wrote:



We have them in stock at KK, give me a call and I can sort them out for you.
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JULIANROBINSON
11 years ago

We have them in stock at KK, give me a call and I can sort them out for you.

Jules wrote:



I called on Christmas eve and was told you dont sell them? (after being offerd wheel bearings!) :omg: (I was going to drive down and grab them as it was / is urgent!)

Do you sell the WW ones? Do they need reaming?
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Jules
11 years ago

I called on Christmas eve and was told you dont sell them? (after being offerd wheel bearings!) :omg: (I was going to drive down and grab them as it was / is urgent!)

Do you sell the WW ones? Do they need reaming?

JULIANROBINSON wrote:



What can I say.... Sorry!!!

We definitely have 8 in stock, they are from Wolfsburg West and they will need reaming.

Call me!!
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skyway
11 years ago
try cool air thay are good and will tell you if there are in stock for sure
JULIANROBINSON
11 years ago
I should update this thread.

The King and link pin metal Bearings do not fit in the early beam where the original early "solid" bushes were ... they are about 1mm too large for the ends of the beam. Question has been answered.

The early beam has the same inner and outer solid bearings (so 8 of them in total)

https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111401315 

https://www.vwheritage.com/vw_spares_Bush-behind-bearing-T1-65-Both-upper-and-lower-111401315_act_shop.product_pID_176149_lang_EN_country_GB.htm?crumbStartPage=1  (they all have grooves in them for the grease)

I gave up and used a 1960 onwards K&L beam on my '56


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