lee ivatt
17 years ago
HI

My search for a pre 53 chassis is still on. As some of you know I have tracked down the 1949 chassis for my car. But to complete the deal i need to replace it with another chassis. It will be used for a Kubelwagon, so im not looking for concourse or fully original pans!

I have checked out the BBT 1950 rolling chassis. I was told it is up for, are you sitting down.....2000 euros. Not to bad i thought untill i realised it didnt include delivery. :shock:


So anyway the search continues...............
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
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lee ivatt
17 years ago
yes thankyou i emailed him, he told me it had sold. Im fairly sure George told me this was the chassis that he gave away?
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
six-o-one
17 years ago
Not the same one.
Georges went to a guy called Andy (druid57) in the midlands.

I was told there may be an early chassis at Nomad VW as some friends of mine were looking for one a while ago but are sorted now.
(they didn't buy the one at Nomad by the way!)
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Oh ok? It must have been another one, i know which ever one i looked at, it was definatly Georges old one that he gave away for free as he warned me. I'm so confused, ive spoken to so many people! I did talk to nomad vw though? Must have been about something else? :?

Anyway, i'll email jon straight away. I glad someone knows what im doing cos i avnt got a clue. Ive got a whole other load of sites im on trying to finish off the dreaded Rs, Another for the Aston Martin (Too much chrome!!!, and some more where im breaking my wifes 306 Turbo.

Anyway thanks for letting me know i got my self confused, or id have carried on thinking the nomad chassis was another x in the list.
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
2splits
17 years ago
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Hi looks promising, ive emailed the seller to ask if they speak english. Does anyone here know what the rough description of it is?
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
six-o-one
17 years ago
Using Babel fish translation,
it's something along the lines of:

Once again, a rare piece of Nordhoff's history: a complete chassis from a Volkswagen beetle approx.. June 1953 (# 496 thousand) not the usual scrap iron, but unwelded, original (grey covering is still the original VOLKSWAGEN adhesive, with which the carpet was stuck together) and without serious rust. Only some easily treated superficial surface rust on the floor pans, nirgens is already peeled or thin the material. Screwing edge sensational! A better received plate gibt's otherwise only with old cutaway models. Originates from a Top Oval, which was placed by unaquainted hand on another floor pan. Original front axle has a small rust place, no problem. Transmission is fully synchronised. it does not have documents, I would have however a document of one the all-last Brezelkaefer (also 1953), for which, the trick 17 Abholer. Located in Munich - and: remember - in 2 weeks is Octoberfest...

Sounds like a good excuse for a German Beer or three! :wink:


lee ivatt
17 years ago
HI have spoken to seller he has told me its for an oval?
Would this still be ok for use in a kublewagon, i.e is there any difference between this 1953 chassis and a Pre 1953 chassis.
Secondly it appears there are no documents for the chassis, does anyone know how id stand with this if i were to purchace this chassis for my friend.?
Thanks
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
lee ivatt
17 years ago
The chap sold it for cash out of auction. Was a good chassis as well. Nevermind.

Im in talks with nomad vw as he needs to remind him self how much its worth.

But please, please still keep your eyes/ears open, i really would like to fine a pre 53 chassis before i collect my 49 this month.
kindest regards
lee
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Hi, im still looking for a pre 53 chassis. Still in talks with jon at nomadvw, but if any of you find a new lead please let me know. Thanks
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
17 years ago
hi , ive got 2 52 krotch koolers ,one of them iam putting on a late chassis so i have the complete early set up if your interested, only snag at the mo is they are in germany and will not be back till xmas, is this any good to you??
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Yes i am definatly interested! So to reiterate, you have for sale a near complete rolling 1952 chassis?

xmas is fine. Please email me with more details and some pictures if that is possible. [email protected]. Oh and more importantly price. Kind Regards Lee.
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
17 years ago
hi lee, what do you have in mind price wise for the complete 52 chassis?
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Well i was kind of hoping you would tell me what you want for it!
It is very difficult for me to offer a value as i have no idea what condition your chassis is in, and what comes with it i'e wheels, engine etc?
As a rough and i mean rough guess, anything from £600 to £1000, maby a more if it is in real good condition/ with engine etc!?
Sorry, i cant be more specific with out any details on it!
What do you think it is worth?

As i said, if you can, email me some pictures to my address ; [email protected].
This way i may be able to make you an offer. I'll ask a few people what they think as they know more than i do, and let you know what they say.
Kind Regards
Lee Ivatt
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
17 years ago
hi lee, no pics mate untill beginning of november when i go to germany to organise them coming home, ive owned them since 2000, i no that they are solid with engines but none runners , i would be looking to sell a complete running gear,i.e beam, pan , gearbox and engine, so stay in touch and ill work out what they cost and shipping cost and come up with a price for yer. all the best lee.
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Yes the chassis is ideal for my requirements. yes please let me know when you have some pictures and know what you want for it.

I've spoken to a few people who all know a hell of a lot more than i do and they are saying £600-700 as a rough guess.
I've been told prices are all over the place at the moment with some things going for nothing and some at silly money. 'complete' cars are going for about 1500 euros in places so ive been advised that £1000 for your chassis would only be justifiable it it was in near mint condition!?

Once again i look foward to hearing from you, hopefully with some good news. kind Regards Lee.
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
chris.james
17 years ago
😃 54ON EBAY 60.00 WITH BOOK.
lee ivatt
17 years ago
Do you have the link for this?

Also now my requirements have changed as i bought the 49 chassis outright, so there is no need to find a replacement spine. Now my goal is to find a complete chassis, as per last 3 posts above and use the running gear on my 49. Or indeed if you guys think i can do it buy sourcing the seperate parts, then please let me know. although i fear this would work out much more expensive then buying a complete chassis?
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
six-o-one
17 years ago