lee ivatt
2007-06-02T12:38:44Z
Im trying to install my front hubs, but the bearings seem to be too tight to go the whole length of the shaft/spindle?

A friend of mine has told me they are always tight, and to guide them on with a hammer. i have done so with the spacer (see photo) but this is as far as it goes? My fear is that if i hammer them on they wont come off again, especially as i need to remove them later to install the brake shoe hardwear, (once ive found some)

the parts are from 'vw heritage' page 25, nos 4-12 in catalogue. they are >1965 so i cant understand why they wont fit?

I searched the samba, but all i found was a thread with two guys arguing the gramatical correctness over the description on roller bearings/ tapered and ball bearings :roll:

the second photo shows a line of of the parts.

Id also like to mention some of the old hubs i bought had the 'ball bearings' in them. the parts i have are tapered rollers in a casing. i assume this is just the modern equivalent of the old ball type and not that i have the wrong bearings, as they are labeled as >65.

Please help, im at a complete loss here... :cry:
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
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lee ivatt
2007-06-02T12:39:15Z
2nd pic
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Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
Jules
2007-06-03T10:20:12Z
Give me a call if you want, we supply O.E. bearings and I would be happy to do some measuring for you if it would help!
Chris
2007-06-04T09:47:09Z
Lee,
I had the same roblem installing my front drums. The problem is the bearings. They should be the roller type. I found that the tappered type don't fit as there's a 'concave' on the spindle that only the ball bearing type will slot into.

I swapped the bearings back to the ball type and they slotted in no problem.

Chris
A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day.
lee ivatt
2007-06-04T19:26:18Z
Hi thanks for your coments.

Jules, we have spoke in the past i think, but ive lost your contact details, can you pm me or provide a number to call you on.

Hi chris, glad someone else has experienced the same problem, they are such a simple item, i guess this is why it threw me so much when they didnt fit.

Im a bit annoyed with the vw heritage, as i specifficaly told them i had a split beetle and they assured me the pre65 were correct. oh well, cant even sent them back now.

Still DESPERATLY need brake drum internals.....
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
lee ivatt
2007-06-13T10:15:28Z
Thanks jules for pointing me in the right direction. (oh and the sterring wheel, well i couldnt not buy something)

A light rubbing with wen n dry on spindles was enough to help the bearings slide on. The spacers however i think i must have been given the wrong ones or they were made faulty, as i had to machine them out about 1000/thou inch. any way the wheels are on. Just need to fit the new rear axle boots then the body can go on.

I will post a pic of my complete chassis tonight, Please dont pick holes in it though, id post on the samba if i wanted that :lol:

STILL NEED BRAKE DRUM INTERNALS!!! Anyone...?
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6