Is the 67 Bug really the 'Best Beetle', the one to own. It certainly makes a good daily driver in that you have fairly good brakes and comfortable interior but still have the vintage sloping headlights. Also got a ball joint beam which i suppose is less hassle.
Any thoughts!
Simon

I would say the '67 1500 was the peak of the Type 1 evolution, prior to the upright headlight models.

• Long bonnet
• Sloping front wings
• Disc brakes (single circuit)
• 12 volt electrics

After that, IRS and twin-port motors along with styling changes were the main changes (apart from super-beetles) so with a 67 1500 you get the best of everything! 😎

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I would personally say I have a preference for 58-60 bugs. Still retain a lot of 'Oval-ness' with the good looks of the early big window model.

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er... euro 1500s did get disk brakes, but kept the 6 volt electrics!

on the other hand, US spec 67's had drum brakes (as ALL beetles sold in the sates BTW), but 12 volts...and upright headlamps....

Richard i agree with you, but i'm not exactly impartial on this one.

They look better with the smaller front window. Although i do know of more 57s than any other year, got a feeling the build quality of that year was better???

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Well, that just answered a load of questions, i just registered to ask!
We just got hold of a 67 1500 project car...and were wondering if the single circuit disc brake set up was correct, as the only bugs weve ever had on 4 stud n discs were dual circuit set ups!
Is the master cylinder specific to the 67? Are they available or am I better off fitting the dual circuit master and US 67 dual circuit reservoir? I already have an ATE new master cyl...
As for the 6v electrics...the car came with no engine fitted and seems to be fitted with a 12v style flywheel. I forgot to check the starter to see if this is a 6v unit with 12volt style gear on it? Would this be correct?

The car is largely unmessed with (makes a pleasant change) so wed like to keep it that way!

Thanks in advance!!
67 bonnet wanted!!(or trimless long bonnet!)

Reading up on all this, Type 2 and 3 went to 12 volt for 67, beetles remained 6 volt as standard through 1967 but 12volt was offered as an option. It would also seem that the flywheel changed regardless of the voltage.

From Progressive refinements:

1 Aug. 66
Chassis number 117 000 001 (first 1500 was 117 000 003)
Flywheel Now: 130 teeth (outside dia. increased, starter and transmission case altered). Formerly: 109 teeth

1 Aug. 66
Chassis number 117 000 001
Electrical system Now: 12 volt Formerly: 6 volt (M610,611 M code option)

(Types 2 and 3 all went to 12v on 1. Aug 66 )

1 Aug. 67
Chassis number 118 000 002
Electrical system Now: 12 volt Formerly: 6 volt

1 Aug. 66
Chassis number 117 000 003 (1/1500)
Front wheels Now: Disc brakes Formerly: Drum brakes

14 Dec. 66
Chassis number 117 000 001 (only for certain export countries)
Brake system Now: Dual circuit system

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It's all a bit vague about the brakes. I'm pretty sure the '67 1500 I had was single circuit with 12 volt electrics, but the electrics could have been uprated sometime in it's past.

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Crystal clear then? LOL!

Chassis no: 117546***
Definitely has the OG electrics throughout...all vw stamps n logos etc.
some parts are date stamped 1/67, so im assuming its post Jan 67. And was registered in May 67.
Its fitted with a single circuit m/cyl. and the front clip only has the facility for a single outlet reservoir.

HMMM! More research needed I think..
Thanks for the help so far.
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The last beetle in Feb '67 was: 117 566 719
last 1500 engine no. in Feb was: H0 647 064

From http:/www.historicvws.org.uk/ 
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Well, im getting there. Now I just need to know if i can run the disc brakes with the single circuit or shall i just change it anyway? After all, safety over originality as itll be a daily driven car 😎

be nice to know whats correct though!

Personally i think single circuit is only bad if not looked after. The rate we check our bugs you should easily see if anything is going wrong.

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A friend of mine runs a twin cicuit master cylinder on his oval, using the original brake reservoir with the pipe split into two.

Looks original and you would never know, unless you look underneath!
:wink:

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Yeah, i agree, the single circuit systems are fine when you love the cars as much as we do...but I heard that the single circuit cylinder had a different residual pressure(?) and that the calipers would bind on slightly.
??!!

Surely a dual circuit master cylinder with a single circuit reservoir and a T-piece defeats the object? As if one end loses fluid, it will empty the reservoir anyway?!

Im happy running the stock set up if its going to work OK.

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