lee ivatt
14 years ago
Hi all been a year and a half since i sold my 1949 standard, but am back in air cooled ownership.

Have just bought a 1967 lotus white 1500 model as a project. (missing wings, engine and interior)Sorry no pics yet, the car is not home for another 2 weeks:(

Problem is its got drums all round?

And has what I can only assume had the later 4 stud drums fitted.

The front beam has been cut around and lowered crudley!!:evil:

I always thought a 1500 67 should be wide 5 pattern and have disks up front?
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
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VW Stan
14 years ago
If it's a real 1500 it would be 4-stud with discs up front and a ball-joint beam.



It's hard to say what my girlfriend does for a living...

...She sells sea shells on the sea shore!
Batton
14 years ago
My 67, 1500 has 4 stud wheels and disks up front. I think the US 67 retained drums all round - is yours US spec?
lee ivatt
14 years ago
Yes its an original 1500, part of the reason I bought it as I know how sought after the 1500 gearboxes are!:d

I just found out after a bit of hunting that the 67 1500 was the first beetle to have the 4 stud wheels.

So looks like the rears are stock, Its just the front i need to find more info on.

As said its got drums, but I believe they should be disks as standard.

US spec? How do I tell this, what other pointers are there to look for?
Its RHD so im guessing US spec is highly unlikley!

Id like to get it back to stock spec ideally, the cars only done 41k, and is a beauty!

Sorry for the questions, never owned a 60's bug before!
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
pre67vw
14 years ago
The US spec version had upright headlights but a long bonnet, but as yours doesn't have wings thats not a good way to tell. But being RHD it's not going to be US spec anyway.


Rob Amos
Happiness is a stock VW
JD
  • JD
  • pre67vw Junkie
14 years ago
Most likely is either someone has swapped the front axle for one with drums (why?) or someone has swapped the engine and box. Or it´s not a 1500 box!

You can easily put it back to discs and they and rear drums are readily available with Porsche bolt pattern.:wink:
"John, you need to get a grip and STOP MOANING AT EVERYTHING. ThumbDown "
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VW Stan
14 years ago
How do you know it's a 1500 Lee with no engine and no disc brakes?

:?


It's hard to say what my girlfriend does for a living...

...She sells sea shells on the sea shore!
Dubster
14 years ago

How do you know it's a 1500 Lee with no engine and no disc brakes?

:?

VW Stan wrote:



Exactly what I was about to say, it could be a 1200 or 1300.

Any photos that you can share?

December 1966 UK 1500 Beetle
GKL 7
14 years ago
Hi Lee,sorry if i'm a bit slow on the uptake,but who bought your '49?
lee ivatt
14 years ago



Exactly what I was about to say, it could be a 1200 or 1300.

Any photos that you can share?

Dubster wrote:



I am buying it from a good mate who deals in vw's and 2nd hand air cooled parts, I was in the market for another vw, and he just happened to have this come in.
The owner couldnt afford to restore it, but took the engine out to use in his T2 bay.

Shame i know, but thats the story. Anyway its defo a 1500. The car is not back for about 2 weeks as im still trying to finish off an old escort ive got first. So sorry no pics as yet.

The front beam had had some very crude welding done to it with some swayayways, so all i can think is the whole front bean must have been swaped, as i cant see any reason for loosing the disks!

Hi Lee,sorry if i'm a bit slow on the uptake,but who bought your '49?

'50 Karmann wrote:



Alright George, long time no see.

The 49 standard went to a guy called Chris, a young guy around my age, up near Ipswitch. I have tried to contact him a few times to see how the car is coming on, but have had no luck as yet. I do hope he did the car justice after god know how many hundreds of hours i put in, and sourcing parts from all over europe.

Wish id have kept her really, but she was just to bigger a project at the time (well as you know all i started with was a bare shell and naked chassis. not even a nut and bolt in sight!) But there we go, I had no choice to sell her at that time, just wish finances were better back then.

Since the 49. George your going to love this....I had a mint low mile 1993 Escort cosworth, 1992 Golf mk2 GTI with a VR6 engine, and also just finished an full restoration on a 1971 1300 orange beelte.

And am now just getting ready my Mk3 Escort RS1600i for MOT and up for sale.
Bought it in febuary and did a full restoration, for this to happen.............
https://passionford.com/forum/general-discussion/302026-rs1600i-caught-fire-today.html 

Also rebuilt the Aston Martin engine - see link if you fancy a good read
https://passionford.com/forum/restorations-rebuilds-and-projects/277992-aston-martin-dbs-with-lots-of-pics-and-video.html 

Anyway to stop waffling, im now steering back towards vintage tin again.

Was looking for a nice oval, but this 67 came up at a good, mates rates price and was too good to turn down.
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
GKL 7
14 years ago
Oh!Sh*t.
Shame about the car,some on here think that should happen to all escorts:lol:
But when that much work has gone into something,it's never nice to see it destroyed.
I hope no body was hurt.
lee ivatt
14 years ago

Oh!Sh*t.
Shame about the car,some on here think that should happen to all escorts:lol:
But when that much work has gone into something,it's never nice to see it destroyed.
I hope no body was hurt.

'50 Karmann wrote:



No one hurt, just my wallet and a big kick in the balls after a heavy restoration, guess waht i bouhght this car as a shell also back in febuary of this year :oops: .

Well that was just over a month ago since the firs and Im hoping to have the car booked in for MOT next week 😛 Had to basically source everything again, which was a pain as these are actually relativly more rare than 1949 beetle parts!:lol:

Anyway Ive finally seen the error of my ways, As you know when i first joined the forum a few yeares back, i up set a few people with my 50/50 love of fords and VW:twisted: But Ive finally mellowed now and am laying the RS habbit to bed.

One thing im sure even you will be proud of is even tho it an RS ford, I have built it a is 100% original, correct from the fuses right down to the colour, make and model of the shock absorbers:wink:

On a good side the £4k im hoping to get from the RS1600i, will go nicley towards a barndoor van ive longing after!8)

Ill get some pics up of the 67 as soon as its home

And if you (or anyone reading) know of my old 49 Id love to see where shes at now, I just so hope he carried on with the stock restoration as I was doing. Not many 49 standards left!
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
pre67vw
14 years ago


Parts wanted for 1949 restoration.

lee ivatt wrote:



Looks like you need to change your sig :wink:
Rob Amos
Happiness is a stock VW
JD
  • JD
  • pre67vw Junkie
14 years ago


Anyway Ive finally seen the error of my ways, As you know when i first joined the forum a few yeares back, i up set a few people with my 50/50 love of fords and VW:twisted:

lee ivatt wrote:



Nightmare about the Escort. And don´t sweat being a Ford (and Aston Martin) fan. You´d be surprised what people on here are into (and car wise also!:shock: ).
"John, you need to get a grip and STOP MOANING AT EVERYTHING. ThumbDown "
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lee ivatt
14 years ago



Looks like you need to change your sig :wink:

pre67vw wrote:



:oops: spooted it last night but too tired to change it .



Nightmare about the Escort. And don´t sweat being a Ford (and Aston Martin) fan. You´d be surprised what people on here are into (and car wise also!:shock: ).

JD wrote:



Im definatly done with the RS badge. Ive saved and put back on the road 4 RS's now, so have done my bit!

Only ford id have now is a GT40 or Model T:lol:

Soooo excited about getting the new bug home
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
pre67vw
14 years ago
Some photos of a nice '67 here if you need anything for reference...

https://forums.pre67vw.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=29147 
Rob Amos
Happiness is a stock VW
lee ivatt
14 years ago

Some photos of a nice '67 here if you need anything for reference...

https://forums.pre67vw.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=29147 

pre67vw wrote:




Thanks intresting read. Are the rear lights correct on that 67 tho, as I always thought the lens was red all over not the 1/3 orange on that car?

Thats cars Savannah Beige. nice colour!!

Mines Lotus White, so am I right in thinking I should have a cream interior and grey carpet?
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
pre67vw
14 years ago
Those rear lights are correct for Europe.
Rob Amos
Happiness is a stock VW
Robb
14 years ago
thanks, thats my all og and untouched 67.

look here-

https://www.geocities.com/veedub1967/colours.html 

https://www.geocities.com/veedub1967/ 

your upholstery colour should be either- gazelle, black or red with the carpet/floor mats being Lava or dark brown coloured.
lee ivatt
14 years ago

Those rear lights are correct for Europe.

pre67vw wrote:



Arrh bloody Americans corupting me again!:lol:
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6