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17 years ago
My 58 bug has failed its MOT and the only outstanding fix is the windscreen washer. At first I thought it would simply be a perished pipe or a blocked washer jet. After investigating I've found the culprit to be the small balck pump that sits behind the dash. Mine is the model where the driver has to manually pump a knob between the wiper and lights switches. The pump is essentially a sealed unit which contains a spring and rubber diaphragm; its the diaphragm which has perished. Because its sealed I cannot attempt a temporary fix such as gluing it. I don't believe these are readily available from the usual outlets?? Does anyone out there know where I can source and new or used replacement??
Please help as I am stuck without it. :cry: :cry:
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Andy Sparks
17 years ago
Speak to Jules at karmann konnection, he sold me one of these a little while ago.

Glueing it will not work, as the rubber bends a lot whilst it is pumped.

Andy
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48REME
17 years ago
The question is, was your car originally fitted with washers?
If not, it should not affect the MOT. MOT is meant to only test the car and its performance, based on what came out of the factory.
I only say this because my 1959 Standard doesn't have washers so I am wondering why an even older Deluxe would have them...
'50 Karmann
17 years ago
Neither of my cars have washers and both passed the M.O.T
However the law states that if an item is fitted ,it must work.
You don't need signal indicators at all to pass an M.O.T,but if they are fitted and don't work you can not use the excuse that they don't need to be there.
I think to the letter of the law all vehicles must have some sort of washer fitted,unless the car has a fold down windscreen e.g A Kubelagen.
But like my local station the tester often uses his disgression.I was told he considered there to be far more important concerns
mrsherbie
17 years ago
I have this type that was fitted from new in my 63.
You have to manually pull the cream button away from the dash rather than push the double action cream button that is the usual type.
It was my only MOT fail about 5 years ago.
I got a good used one from kk for £30 then Wolfsburg West turned up a lot of new old stock ones which cost the same with shipping, so I have kept the WW one as a spare and rubbed rubber lubricant round the one on the car because it never ever gets used and will no doubt perish again!
I have seen them on lots of Australian and NZ cars, usually late ovals. I think it might be a non uk/German beetle thing?
Where does your car originate from?
"it'll wreck the patina you haven't worked so hard to create" - 50Karmann
mrsherbie
17 years ago

I only say this because my 1959 Standard doesn't have washers so I am wondering why an even older Deluxe would have them...

"48REME" wrote:



Washers on a standard?!
I would call them a luxury item not to be wasted on the likes of 'standard models' that live in an old shoebox in the middle of t'road...... :lol:
"it'll wreck the patina you haven't worked so hard to create" - 50Karmann
six-o-one
17 years ago

Washers on a standard?!
I would call them a luxury item not to be wasted on the likes of 'standard models' that live in an old shoebox in the middle of t'road...... :lol:

"mrsherbie" wrote:



Monty Python's Flying Circus -
"Four Yorkshiremen"

[ from the album Live At Drury Lane, 1974 ]

The Players:
Michael Palin - First Yorkshireman;
Graham Chapman - Second Yorkshireman;
Terry Jones - Third Yorkshireman;
Eric Idle - Fourth Yorkshireman;

The Scene:
Four well-dressed men are sitting together at a vacation resort.
'Farewell to Thee' is played in the background on Hawaiian guitar

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, very passable, that, very passable bit of risotto.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
Nothing like a good glass of Château de Chasselas, eh, Josiah?

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
You're right there, Obadiah.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Who'd have thought thirty year ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Château de Chasselas, eh?

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
A cup o' cold tea.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Without milk or sugar.

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Or tea.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
In a cracked cup, an' all.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Oh, we never had a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Because we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness, son".

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, 'e was right.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, 'e was.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
I was happier then and I had nothin'. We used to live in this tiny old house with great big holes in the roof.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
House! You were lucky to live in a house! We used to live in one room, all twenty-six of us, no furniture, 'alf the floor was missing, and we were all 'uddled together in one corner for fear of falling.

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Eh, you were lucky to have a room! We used to have to live in t' corridor!

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Oh, we used to dream of livin' in a corridor! Would ha' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woke up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House? Huh.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Well, when I say 'house' it was only a hole in the ground covered by a sheet of tarpaulin, but it was a house to us.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
We were evicted from our 'ole in the ground; we 'ad to go and live in a lake.

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
You were lucky to have a lake! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in t' shoebox in t' middle o' road.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Cardboard box?

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.

SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!

THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife.

FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.

ALL:
They won't!

😃 😃 😃 😃 😃
mrsherbie
17 years ago
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I had completely forgotten how funny that was!
"it'll wreck the patina you haven't worked so hard to create" - 50Karmann
1958 Harry
17 years ago
My '58 swedish bug has one of those pump washers, must have been required in Sweden?
Multi show winning magazine featured '58 Bug - Harry
2007 2.0 New Beetle - Mijj
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