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GKL 7
15 years ago



I really can't see what the problem is??? If people want a historic VW with 12v here is an article that responsibly shows how to achieve it. As has been said, if the vast majority of people are running 6v then it may be an article of interest or not, but they will make up there own mind as to wether they may convert their cars. I can't imagine every member of the club will now convert to 12v as a result of one interest article in the club magazine? :shock: In the same way that people reading the interesting article on the 'home trials/rally' bug are going to go out and drill spotlamps into te roofs of their cars? :lol:

It's an article of interest in another fine issue of an informitive club magazine.

Alex.

crazydaze wrote:




Hmmm!!! and that's all coming from someone posting on a STOCK site with an avatar like that.
No offence matey.
But it's a bit died in the wool around here.
crazydaze
15 years ago
No offence taken mate :lol:

I love stock vw's, I joined the Historic VW Club last year, I renewed this year, I like the efforts all the stock enthusiasts make to promote their/your choice in Volkswagens. In a world dominated by magazines that concentrate on modified VW's It's nice to know that there is a hardcore of enthusiasts promoting stock VW's, except to be honest it would seem, down south at least, there are hardly any and I mean a tiny handful of 100% stock original/restored cars that get displayed in the stock classes at shows.

Just because my own '66 is lowered and dare I say narrowed (my avatar) does'nt mean I dont want to learn, I have spent a fortune (to me) over the past 13 years having what was a basket case only fit for a scrap heap restored, thus saving another '66 for the road, and I take a huge interest in Stock VW's . Like I said in my post, an informative article is'nt going to persuade every member of the club to convert to 12v. It's an article, its peoples choice to act on it or to throw the mag in the bin etc, but in the grand scheme of things it's not the end of the world really is it? I saw this thread as an over reaction in my eyes. Like commenting on my avatar, I don't see the constant slating on here of anything other than 100% bone stock and pre '67 as constructive for those starting with something less than perfect and trying to achieve something more close to OG.

I'm trying to get my car back to stock spec apart from the suspension for now 😳 :lol: Like an idiot the car was real OG but full of rust when I bought it, I binned usable OG Rubber mats, and instead of rebuilding the 1300 motor I binned it out and swapped it for a 1600, after learning, reading forums and joining the Historic Club and meeting good friends I have changed my ways and now spend hours hunting down those small, insignificant parts that most people won't see and dont care about to get the spec back to OG.

Of course to discuss the merits of a club mag is anyone's right, but it seem's that surely it's a bit of an over-reaction in this case to an article that is trying to constuctivly advise those that may be considering a 12v conversion in a unobtrusive way, I am sure plenty of people add aditional indicators to Oval and Split bumpers etc, and that's not frowned upon as it's for safety? Upgrading the electrics can be done safely and visually with sympathy plus it's not irreversible so I guess i'm saying take the article at face value, if you want to act on the info, use it, if not flick over the page and read-on.

Alex.
pre67vw
15 years ago

The Historic Volkswagen Club offers its members:

* Four packed editions of the magazine, 'The Historic VW' per year, featuring reports on some of the finest six volt vehicles in the country, restoration projects, six volts at the shows, technical talk, history, letters, free advertising and much, much more.

*Help and advice regarding the restoration, or maintenance, of your six volt VW.

*Discount deals with suppliers of NOS, Genuine and Restoration parts.

*Valuations for Agreed Value Insurance schemes.

*Authentication of vehicle registrations and age for re-registration.

*A meeting point at many of the major shows in the VW season. The shop sells a wide range of exclusive merchandise, unusual gifts and endeavours to acquire the more obscure items required to keep a six volt on the road.

*An annual meeting geared towards six volt vehicles currently at Hatton Country World, Warwickshire.



This is why it's a bit odd that they have an article on converting your car to 12v, I don't see anyone over reacting - just highlighting the oddness of the article?
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JD
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15 years ago



I don't see anyone over reacting - just highlighting the oddness of the article?

pre67vw wrote:



Me either.

The 12volt conversion seems to be just one of those "done things", that actually, when you think about it, really isn´t in any way necessary for most people.

I can see it being the sort of thing that "Hot Car" might have done an article on in about 1972, the better to help you fit six "Rallye" style foglamps onto your Oval. (One for Rob then!) But really - why?
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GKL 7
15 years ago

over-reaction

crazydaze wrote:




That's ANNA.
Don't you just love her,defender of the faith:d
crazydaze
15 years ago




That's ANNA.
Don't you just love her,defender of the faith:d

'50 Karmann wrote:



:lol:

So from now on, any pre-67 car converted to 12v is banned from here and the HVWOC and the magazine?

Alex.:lol:

p.s. Damn I just banned myself :lol:
GKL 7
15 years ago

p.s. Damn I just banned myself :lol:

crazydaze wrote:



NO!!!
Your front beam did that,a short time ago:wink:
mrsherbie
15 years ago

I have changed my ways and now spend hours hunting down those small, insignificant parts that most people won't see and dont care about to get the spec back to OG.
Alex.

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:lol:
I laugh but today I was also lining up kamax bolts along the kitchen worktop into number/size order and wire brushing then copper greasing the threads of each one :lol:
I must admit, for a while now I have realised that 'resto' people are very often far more fussy about exactly the correct parts for the exact year than a lot of stock people are. Generalisation I know! And I guess you guys need 12v sometimes just to run all those hundreds of accessories :lol:
But at a non-vw show a few weeks back we chatted to some die hard older stock guys, and I enjoyed hearing such harsh stock gritty attitude, it was refreshing! but at the same time the car's had radials/very wrong lights/wrong interior. Big simple things.

Its just 'that' word that should'nt apply to a 50yr old car that has made it this far and is still on the road unlike most other 50's cars....Convenience


Today, im not able to find a starter for my 64 for example. do you have one for sale ? :-)

volkfan wrote:



Fair point, we have some but no, none for sale as we now have 5 6v cars to run so might need spares sometime.


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The Historic Volkswagen Club offers its members:

* Four packed editions of the magazine, 'The Historic VW' per year, featuring reports on some of the finest six volt vehicles in the country, restoration projects, six volts at the shows, technical talk, history, letters, free advertising and much, much more.

*Help and advice regarding the restoration, or maintenance, of your six volt VW.

*Discount deals with suppliers of NOS, Genuine and Restoration parts.

*Valuations for Agreed Value Insurance schemes.

*Authentication of vehicle registrations and age for re-registration.

*A meeting point at many of the major shows in the VW season. The shop sells a wide range of exclusive merchandise, unusual gifts and endeavours to acquire the more obscure items required to keep a six volt on the road.

*An annual meeting geared towards six volt vehicles currently at Hatton Country World, Warwickshire.


This is why it's a bit odd that they have an article on converting your car to 12v, I don't see anyone over reacting - just highlighting the oddness of the article?

pre67vw wrote:



This is EXACTLY what I was referring to!

Funny, I thought at the time something similar you had said about this forum ( I think when you were telling us off about posting 356's :oops: :lol: )

Something like "If it is not directly relevant to pre67 stock vw's, then better to post nothing at all, than water the forum down with unrelated content"


"it'll wreck the patina you haven't worked so hard to create" - 50Karmann
harveypj
15 years ago
My 58's 6v electrics are in top shape and have had no problems (probably should not have said that:lol: )
To keep reliability and keep the battery in top condition I use an 'accumate' trickle charger when the car is in the garage. (thegreenreaper.co.uk best price I could find)
I got my battery from Status. Barclay does a German made OE style one with a massive 77Ah capacity nearly twice that of other offerings. Very good price too.
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lifeintheslowlane
15 years ago
Odd article for the Historic Magazine? Yes but my first impression was it's rather a redundant article seeing as just about every VW mag runs the same article every couple of years when they find they don't have enough to fill their pages.

Want to know how to do it: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=233946  and just about every other VW Forum you'd like to name...apart from this one of course.:wink:
John.
1958 Harry
15 years ago
My '58 is still 6V and I'll consider changing it to 12V when I can no longer get 6V bits, luckily I even have a load of spare speedo bulbs which are hard to get :D

However my '58 is as stock as I can afford, I now have the correct engine, the only non stock items (which I bought when I first got the car and didn't know what I was doing with it) are the wrong carpets and the under bonnet area is carpeted, which I will rectify at some point. I also have Radials fitted, however as my Dad is a Tyre dealer (and ergo a Tyre specialist, what he doesn't know about tyres isn't worth knowing) I wont fit Cross Plys to my car, they are out dated unsafe technology, I don't care if that loses me points in Concourse.

Apart from a respray, new seat covers and a repair to the rear quarters my bug is 100% original, the channels wing bolts, wings etc is as it came from the factory.

However with these non stock parts fitted is my car not worthy for this site, despite coming 3rd in Concourse at Stanford Hall this year?
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JD
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  • pre67vw Junkie
15 years ago


However with these non stock parts fitted is my car not worthy for this site, despite coming 3rd in Concourse at Stanford Hall this year?

1958 Harry wrote:



Yup. You´re banned. Never darken our forum again! Prepare to be chased away from future stock events by a pitchfork wielding mob. Burn the heretic, etc, etc...:lol:

Hey its your car - do whatever you like with it. This is a stock kind of forum though, but since that appears to be your ultimate goal, whats the problem?8)
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