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Standard split
17 years ago
This is a view of the big air-cooled V8 Tatra 87.

Makes you realise how uninteresting things are today?  6513.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.
Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook! :d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
Standard split
17 years ago
I thought this picture of a Tatra T97 chassis that I have recently seen on the web may be of interest to some of you. You have to admit, it looks very familiar :!: :shock:  7478.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.
Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook! :d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
kiwi_dubr
17 years ago
1936 Tatra Saloon Model 77 here in NZ.

https://www.southward.org.nz/viewgallery.php?id=1&letter=T 

Also a couple of nice early VW's
Volkswagen Saloon 1952
Volkswagen Schwimmvagen 1943


https://www.southward.org.nz/viewgallery.php?id=1&letter=V 

This museum is the largest in the Southern Hemisphere.

Enjoy

Jason
Standard split
16 years ago
I thought this study of my new toy – my 1937 Tatra T87 with the VW prototype might interest some of you :?:

This car has the huge V8 rear air-cooled engine, the car itself is a fair size too, larger than the VW Beetle and my Tatra T97.  12043.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.
Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook! :d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
kdf38
16 years ago
Does the Volkswagenwerk know you have taken their prototyp! :shock: 😃

I thought this study of my new toy – my 1937 Tatra T87 with the VW prototype might interest some of you :?:

This car has the huge V8 rear air-cooled engine, the car itself is a fair size too, larger than the VW Beetle and my Tatra T97.

"Standard split" wrote:

Mike
Texas
Nov. 1947 +
Febr 1949 shell
Standard split
16 years ago
No, and the Tatra Museum haven't noticed their T87 missing either :!:
Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook! :d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
Standard split
16 years ago
This is rather addictive :!:

Here's my T97 with VW's prototype :wink:  12283.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.
Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook! :d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
lee ivatt
16 years ago
I wish i had the time and money to build one of those beetle prototypes. they are so cool. Has anyone had a ago at it (apart from the rep vw made)

Ps: if the pic were real i bet you £100 you'd not want to reverse park them as close as that!!! :shock:
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
Standard split
16 years ago
What Beetle nut wouldn't want the prototype :!:

It's a fact with Beetles, the earlier they are, the better they look.

Why ever did they not keep this roof line and run it through the split rear window :?:  12293.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.
Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook! :d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
lee ivatt
16 years ago
Im not really a beetle nut. i only bought my 49 because it had a split window and well 49 just has that edge on a 50's car.

I think its great that you have a Tatra, must be so nice to have a car that you know probably only a handful of people own and drive?

I agree with you vw should have just put in a window and kept those lines, I guess mabe because metal and time were short, this is one reason they lost that beautiful shape.

Was looking at some pictures of george lloyds 50 kab last night in a thread on 'The S*%$a', from the rear 1/4 view there are definatly strong echos of the prototype with that long sweeping rear.

is there a link you know of with more pics of the prototype, my little brain is ticking over wondering how hard it would be to make one either that or i buy a GT40 Replica. :?
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
Standard split
16 years ago
That's an interesrting answer :!:

I also originally became interested in early VW's because I loved the split rear window. All the car's other charms grew on me later. If Beetle production had started with the oval or larger window I'd probably never have got into them. Would I have missed out :!:

Maybe there is an edge on having a Beetle from the 40's as opposed to the 50's, but for me the edge is having a split rear window as opposed to anything else.

The early Tatra's really are something, maybe it's the look on people's faces when they see them! (Or mine when I drive them). But even so I'd love a VW prototype (replica of course).

Is there a company out there that could build accurate VW prototype replicas, I'm sure there would be some customers if the price stayed within reason.

Nice pictures the two replica Beetle prototypes are shown on www.kdf-wagen.de/main/main.php - See the Lottermann 2007 feature
:wink:
Rattletrap – the Volkswagen Beetle that has covered an incredible mileage equivalent to over 35 times around the planet :omg:
Running nifty since 1950… the King of Volkswagens:beer: Why not make friends with this famous little VW – he's on facebook! :d
http://forums.pre67vw.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16378 
kdf38
16 years ago
Technically, 1950 belongs to the 40's decade. (1941 -1950)

Im not really a beetle nut. i only bought my 49 because it had a split window and well 49 just has that edge on a 50's car.

I think its great that you have a Tatra, must be so nice to have a car that you know probably only a handful of people own and drive?

"lee ivatt" wrote:

Mike
Texas
Nov. 1947 +
Febr 1949 shell
lee ivatt
16 years ago
:? :? :?
thats insane!? Is this some weird way of describing "technical" prodcution runs?

for example, obviously a split built on the 2nd of jan 1950, was most probably started in 1949. But i think you are missing the point 1949 is in the 40's decade 1950 is in the 50's decade, thats why i went for a 49 standard as someone said to me last week the last beetle before they started improving it for export.

if you were born in 1970, you dont tell people you are from the 60's.

Sorry if im sounding rude, maby because ive just been on the samba and im in that frame of mind of disagreeing with everything, nit picking every point and having a better answer than everyone else.

i looked at many 50 & 51's but finding one from 1949 was so much more satisfiying because its a car from the 40's :shock:
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
lee ivatt
16 years ago
forgive my major lack of knowledge but whats with the red prototype, is this a slightly different prototype number or someones take on the vw38?
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Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
lee ivatt
16 years ago
blue  12366.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
six-o-one
16 years ago

:? :? :?
thats insane!? Is this some weird way of describing "technical" prodcution runs?

for example, obviously a split built on the 2nd of jan 1950, was most probably started in 1949. But i think you are missing the point 1949 is in the 40's decade 1950 is in the 50's decade, thats why i went for a 49 standard as someone said to me last week the last beetle before they started improving it for export.

if you were born in 1970, you dont tell people you are from the 60's.

Sorry if im sounding rude, maby because ive just been on the samba and im in that frame of mind of disagreeing with everything, nit picking every point and having a better answer than everyone else.

i looked at many 50 & 51's but finding one from 1949 was so much more satisfiying because its a car from the 40's :shock:

"lee ivatt" wrote:



If you're talking decades 1950 IS the last year of the 40's decade.

A decade is ten years. I.E. the first decade would be 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
As there is no year zero!!

So there!
:wink: :wink:
Lavenham Vintage VW Show - 2012 
Bandwagen | Vintage Volkswagens & Photography 
lee ivatt
16 years ago
ok you may be older and wiser

but ive got a 49 and if feel much better saying that than 1950. 😎

anyway im already thinking of a date to sell her (maby its debut at lavenham 08) my hunger for other cars is seriously getting to me. ive been there owned a split windowed car (and a car from the 40's :wink: )
now the big block V8 is seducing me. if this link doesnt do anything for you, check you are breathing and your heart is still pumping. ps make sure you have speakers for full effect!!!! :twisted:



how about that red proto,check out the pics on the kdf site. imagine all that space to work around the engine!!
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
six-o-one
16 years ago
lee ivatt
16 years ago
wow its so simple, i love it.

so what is it vw 37 39? im assuming the bule one is vw38?
Past Restorations

1954 International Tractor-----1971 1200 Orange Beetle-----1985 Mk3 Escort S1 RS TURBO
1972 1600 VW Camper-----1969 MK1 Escort Mexico RS-----1949 Standard Beetle (incompleted)
1993 Escort Cosworth 4x4 350bhp---1970 1300 Orange Beetle---1971 Aston Martin DBS Vantage
1992 Mk Golf GTI 16v (2.8 VR6 conversion-----1982 MK3 Escort RS 1600i (restored twice!!)
1987 Sierra 3dr Cosworth to concourse--1968 1300 Red Beetle--1967 1500 Lotus White Beetle
1972 1200, Orange beetle (yes I like orange!)

Currently restoring

1958 old english white golge rag top--- 1992 mk3 Golf VR6
Doc*181
16 years ago

wow its so simple, i love it.

so what is it vw 37 39? im assuming the bule one is vw38?

"lee ivatt" wrote:



nope... the Blue one is a replica of the W30

the red one is a replica of the slightly older V3/3

here is a little list (take a look at the 'prototypes' and 'testcars'):
https://www.bugland.be/Verschillende_Vw-types.html#V_1 



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